The group responsible for maintaining Perl5 has just released version 20 of the language and there is strong work on version 22 (Perl5 follows a even = stable / odd = development release cycle). It’s awesome and allows very complex and intricate things to be called upon in few keystrokes depending on how you use it. Then there was BASICA and GWBASIC (Gee Whiz BASIC) that came with every PC in the 1980s, also implemented by Microsoft. While I would like to see rails go away it’s also here to stay with Github and the like using is exclusively. That, I would argue, was the day Ruby started to die; over the past three and a half years, interest has begun to wane. Name one Fortune 500 company that uses it, period, other than to maintain legacy software. Drove my Chevy to the Levie…’, puts ‘2011 was the day that Ruby died, yeah…’. Visual Basic.Net is fully compliant with everything that C# offers (both have parity with the CLR) and will continue indefinitely. Trust me when I say – they’d drop you in the middle of the ocean first. You’d be marking the language for death right there. )… There are 50 balls and you can pick any 6…”. That little brother in the hospice is Cobol. What this means is the many self-learned software developers do not really understand the profession and, for example (to your second point “They will purposefully write code that is so unreadable”), write bad and obfuscated code that may appear to be done on purpose for job security…I suspect most of this is because it was done by someone who doesn’t REALLY know what he’s doing but learned a thing or two along the way. There are products written in the 90s that are still in active use/actively sold and it doesn’t make sense to rewrite them – same with VB 6 and many other languages. No doubt it has died a merciful death in the PC and IT arenas, but assembly programming will always be an important, even critical, skill for firmware developers. I continue to fall back on it for any kind of heavy-duty text manipulation. I still program wirh Delphi 4. It’s sad that some people seem willing to go down with the ship; I wish EMBT cared about them the way these people care about Delphi. So as far as desktop applications development goes, Delphi still rules. Absolutely not. I, for one, really like most programming languages from machine coding to assembler to higher level languages. Where is Delphi enjoying a revival? Object-Oriented client/server for windows in the 90’s which VisualBasic never achieved. Java set out to be simplified C++ but it too kept getting so bloated that frameworks arose to deal with the complexity and now there are talks to create frameworks to simplify some of those other frameworks! And I use .NET C# programs to access Excel, Word, and Outlook emails all the time. Computer Programming Languages Today. for example Perl may be very good at string/file/data manipulation but not so good at big math calculations. No explanations at all. Like as if they were tarnished by Ebola or something worse! I know go on.. curse me! Somebody should tell that to the hundreds of NYC startups building their platforms on Rails and the thousands of students going through WDI classes in anticipation of joining or creating the next wave of startups. Don’t know perl, but C# would copy the routine with each call and run out of memory in short order. when they can get C++, C#, ASP.NET/Javascript/Typescript, F# and Python in a full-featured, up-to-date IDE with reams of support and an active ecosystem and lots of people who know how to use it for free? Its all about the right tool for the job. Is it worthwhile learning PHP programming anymore? TJ – how can anyone “hate” a programming language? 😉 )? Because that statement verges on unqualified rhetoric. IF, THEN, ELSE, END IF, instead of IF () { }; ELSE { }; Just compare any identical code in VB and C# and it is easy to see which one is the most readable and easy to understand. So, I don’t understand why some people says that my preferred programming language is very close to death…that is very close to say that if someone does not like a programming language, that tends to disappear…. Maybe at Borland until they bet the farm on whatever that DB was. Delphi refers to the Object Pascal/Delphi based dev environment product only. You are dreaming, perl is not going to die. The guy who headed up the creation of Borland Delphi, Anders Hejlsberg, moved over to Microsoft and headed up the creation of a new language called C#. Back in the 1970s, I was told that major financial software used PL/I, not Cobol. Some companies depend on those languages. One would think performance is important there, no? Slashdot was and still is run using mod_perl. Not quite what I meant. This can be done with SQL procedures too. You want the TRUTH? This is an unacceptable practice in open-source, and an unacceptable practice in closed source. VB.NET and C# each have a couple subtle features the other doesn’t have (for example, as of .NET 4.5, C# has true Variants, whereas VB.NET has more flexible LINQ query statements). I have written over 200 applications in VB and never needed those few things it cannot do. Perl is dead. But these are mainly for legacy reasons, I suppose, probably not a lot of new projects being started with them. There’s an 8 month support window, there’s a EULA which says you can’t use it to write any software which competes with anything Embarcadero sells, etc. The earliest known deliberately esoteric language is INTERCAL, designed in 1972 by Donald R. Woods and James M. Lyon. Hi, I don’t think you did very good research on Perl. Delphi inherits Pascal’s old single-pass compiler architecture which originated as a way to save memory when machines only had kilobytes. This might sound silly but some programming languages really benefit from this sit… Matt, as I heard it, the problem is not with VB.Net working with Office but rather Microsoft finding a migration path for all of the existing VBA since the two languages are really quite different in how they handle things. PHP is a server-side scripting language originally created by Rasmus Lerdorf in 1994. If anything, C# should die and be replaced by VB as the standard .Net language. 3. I don’t think that VB.NET will die soon…after all, it is called BASIC for a reason and it is tremendously easier to master than C# or Java (which is the combination of all bad things from all programming languages). Unlike Delphi, FreePascal/Lazarus are truly cross-platform. properly enhanced and would need to be recreated from scratch in C++. And it is by far the best language for fast prototyping embedded software, so for programming the internet of things. Perl – not to mention _numerous_ tools that are used to interacts with MySQL (monitoring, benchmarking, etc) are written in Perl. It is not an evolutionary upgrade — it is a new language. Love that old-world graveyard image/metaphor too. !’); different ways (permutations) of arranging n items in a sequence, and the number of ways you can pick m items from a set of n can be expressed as n!/(m!(n-m)!) And yes, other languages have these features too. Just pull out a Casio calculator and use that probably easier syntax wise! I graduated from an accelerated program that taught to the language… C# and Java. Maybe we wont be writing raw JS, and instead we’ll be using some advanced form of JQuery or CoffeeScript that makes the code more elegant and the development easier. When is a language dead? FORTRAN and LED ZEP! Space Programming Language (SPL) System Development Corporation: JOVIAL 1968 ALGOL 68 (UNESCO/IFIP standard) Adriaan van Wijngaarden, Barry J. Mailloux, John E. L. Peck and Cornelis H. A. Koster, et al. Perl6 is very cool for anyone interested in language parsing. As to unreadable, this is all up to the programmer. Why, when it isn’t known for speed, to put it mildly? The language itself, Delphi is an Object Pascal derivative. Marking Delphi for death only shows you know nothing about programming…. If not, it starts at 499$ / seat. Perl6 indeed took a long journey to get into the “I could use it” phase. Twitter is an asynchronous messaging platform. Xamarin asks for 999$/year for it’s product and Delphi is a little bit more expensive for a FULL LICENCE that you can use until you die. In my experience I see far too many devs who rely on and use gems like they’re Lego bricks to build apps that result in code (callback hell) that’s a nightmare to maintain. Then, ten years ago, while sitting in a Office Depot, checking out desks and chairs, I started chatting with another customer who started talking about some event on that date fifteen years before… and I STILL didn’t make the connection. It is impressive that it doesn't have specific numeric types and that number won't overflow and maintain that much precision. “C#/Java is slow” is often said by people who haven’t looked at C# or Java in 8-10 years. I agree that C++ is slowly dying. One programmer I knew called it a “piecemeal” language, because it seemed as if the creators had just piled features on top of features without giving much thought as to how everything fit together. As such, enterprises tend to agree to only use a certain percentage of its features – and no enterprises agree on which features. And, I expect my kids will too, should it be their fancy. out of that list I only agree with #5, and it’s just because I haven’t seen it mentioned in the past few months. One of the nice things about C++ is that it is portable – OK there are implementations of C# that work on Unix, but they will always lag the language. A fellow student calculated with the present computers it would take 6 months to calculate a solution. I don't even know what to call the mathematical process you are running. But I hope that most developers know this, and I’m surprised that you don’t. The only thing I don´t like is it price. I use Perl (Perl 5 and Perl 6) more than any other programming language. But you know as pasionate as such defenses are, they don’t justify why others should be learning python now, only why the defenders should be using it now. Do I feel Perl’s syntax is perfect? Sorry but Delphi is not dying its simply dead, its too expensive in this day and age. Some implementations were good others garbage, but all offered that quick UI advantage. Ruby is certainly not dying with many popular widely used projects like Chef using it to script. This language was very similar to Java. The definitions of alive, dead or dying will always be arguable. I offered nothing new of significance. But in general, new code isn’t going to be written in COBOL. With new features like ‘Inline::Perl5’ and ‘use v5’ more and more code of Perl 5 can be executed in Perl 6. in response to the original comment: “Marked for Death,” we dont know what the future will hold. I sense a lot of pain and denial in these comments. He said “n! Anyone who knows how to program in it can go to one of these companies and most likely retire from there before the company abandons COBOL. Tabs use in a mixed developer environment? Perl is dead…this is not a repeat from every year over the past 15 years. Whilst many have reminded the author of Microsoft’s “BASIC” credentials going back to the Altair, and the various BASIC interpreters they wrote (including Applesoft BASIC); let’s not forget that Microsoft also had a very good BASIC compiler in the 80s – Microsoft Business BASIC Compiler (aka “BASCOM” and “BASCOMB”). It is not a compiled language like Java (kinda*) is, so it does run less efficiently. There are even recruiters who focus mainly on Perl-programmers. Object Pascal: Actually, I’ve never heard much about this and assumed it was obsolete six years ago. So please, you don’t have to like Perl, and I’m not going to lower myself by bashing other languages which are just fine and dandy. http://www.embarcadero.com/products/rad-studio#clang It’s still used in large financial institutions. Designing assembly languages to verify chip designs was a piece of cake with Perl. operations is also confused between factorial and triangular numbers I think. Problem solving complexity has increased along with the power of computers and we rely on sophisticated languages and frameworks to wrap this complexity into usable tools to build useful things. In a word: No. Benchmarks such as SciMark and Tiger Hash show Java soundly beats Delphi in performance and C++ being twice as fast. It is one off the best languages out there. The last commercially published Delphi book was in 2005. It seems most bashers of Perl always focus on issues like “Perl code is unreadable” or they despise using “sigils”. The language had its day—but now is as good a time as any to ditch Perl and embrace the 21st century. Upload your resume. I have never in my life encountered a process that executes the new (to me) definition of the factorial process. Every one ot these methods of expression is still used today. New languages leap into the market (Hello, Swift) and others slowly fade into the distance (MUMPS, we knew ye well.) RIP Pascal! If they succeed, it will see a revival probably bigger than anything else in the history of programming as millions of developers migrate to it from the old VB6 language. COBOL, Python 2) to a modern one. Java and C# are sinisterly Object Oriented, with no multiple inheritance and very unbendable, otherwise patches such as AspectJ wouldn’t have a reason to be. You won’t be able to run existing Perl programs in native Perl 6 because it has a different language syntax. Yes you are right. Perl, python, many others fall into this group as well. Microsoft’s introducing a free version of Visual Studio for small companies and single developers is the final nail in the coffin for Delphi – along with ZXamarin emerging as the dominant player in the cross-platform mobile development tool market. Who knows. Delphi/OP is not dead or dying. VB.NET is still used for web sites as well as Windows applications, do I say that Visual Studio is a waste of time to learn, NO. The guys at Booking.com would also find this article amusing being that their company uses Perl. You won’t be able to run existing Perl programs in native Perl 6 because it has a different language syntax.”. I’d say C# and Java are for the most part interchangeable for most of what I do. So if you get the message there is no such thing as a dead language and there is no professional software group claiming it. I think I see your point. It doesn’t mean it isn’t spoken in the dusty halls of academia, somewhere. Delphi came from Borland which is where Mr. Anders Hejlsberg came from and C# contains many of the same concepts/ideas. I must say, this article exhibits many elements of ignorance. People refer to Python as “executable pseudocode”, and to Perl as “executable line noise”. about Delphi you might be wrong on some quite fundamental point: even if you think Embarcadero does more marketing for C++ on their website you didn’t look behind the curtain: Everything is multi-platform. Ruby is still the #2 language in Github after Javascript. So apparently, Jeff, you don’t get out much? Java does run on the JVM which is open source, so it can run on potentially any device, which does make it suited for more than C#. Just any huge company with enough resources and the fresh minds to give Delphi the boost it deserves. – has a very large user base in web development. He is a PhD candidate at a top-tier engineering school, and his application is being used by a world famous scientific institute. There is no such thing as a government dime. I can see it being irrelevant to M$ dog forbid some genius creating a Windows clone. “I don’t understand Perl”, Ok, just say that then. Given their strange over 20 year obsession with BASIC, this isn’t happening anytime soon. At least understand the languages you write about. Complex question, for there are several reasons that a language might become obsolete. The great thing is that if I want, I can still use it in a virtual DOS-box on my Linux machines today. But new companies and new software in general are not being done with Delphi. It runs almost as fast as C. It has by far the best hardware support. 🙂 … (: VB Rocks and will never die. I assure you most sys admins would sword-fight you out of the building if you tried to uninstall it from their linux boxes. There are just too many systems that rely on it for this to happen quickly. 2. The speed is good enough for the vast majority of systems and the expressiveness is certainly a valuable feature. I agree as well! and here: https://store.xamarin.com/, Sure the EMBT is making a lot of mistakes, like it’s 30 days trial version, like not making a free limited edition at least, or by not giving it for free to Universities – and to all college students that might end up as programmers, like MS does with it’s Visual Studio. And if you want to use XAMARIN inside it… just add it’s 999$/year/seat to get the real picture. If you want to inform people tell them to learn Java since it is being used on the Android platform but who knows what will happen in 10 years from now, certainly not Mr. Gogswell for sure. C# is powerful and “fast” compared to other higher level languages, but some times you need to be more efficient, which C++ gives you. 2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10=3,628,800 That’s a very… interesting conclusion considering how off your claims are. Delphi (Object Pascal) is alive and well and along with its partner, C++Builder (both included in RAD Studio) are the only native optimized code multi-device development environments and languages that allow you to build Windows, OSX, iOS and Android applications using the same project, framework and source code. Perl 5 has a yearly release cycle and still introduces new features that are afterwards copied by other programming languages. You know, the ones that are “too big to fail.”. what is an enterprise level application. Web tools/languages will always be an unholy mess until someone come’s up with a to make the REST nature of http and the web appear as an imperative system. I used Perl full time from 1999-2006. Binary was also once written by hand, and while we don’t have any practical application for it today, it’s concept exists as a fundamental tenet for computing and software development, so we will always want to have a basic understanding of it. RIP Ruby you may have gone off the rails, but you will be missed! Yes, perl isn’t doing much .cgi work these days but as a Unix/Linux system administration tool it is still just as potent as it was when it first gained popularity. Developers who made a living coding up ActionScript for Flash-powered sites screamed bloody murder. Or were they expecting AIR and Flash to live on together? Wow, that is a way to kill yourself. Many of the languages discussed and not discussed are have been dead a while. This, ultimately, forced the spin-off of CodeGear and the eventual acquisition of CodeGear by Embarcadero where the group now has a new home. It may not mean a lot of programmers writing interesting code, but ActionScript will live on for the foreseeable future with cartoon animators. In terms of quantifiable facts, not so much. If you want to pick on a language, how about Python? I don’t think it will die out, I think it will just change into a different form like it did when it shifted from version 98 to 11. And here’s a more complex example that calculates a factorial, found here: I tested this out to find the factorial of 1000. Machine code was once written by hand, now it isn’t but it’s incredibly important to understand it. Dang autocorrect: “the best” should have been “many, or most.”. In respect to your comment — *Citation Needed. I agree. Most computer programming languages were inspired by or built upon concepts from previous computer programming languages. The only y you can really say anything is dead in programming terms is by defining dead as the kool kids on’t us it… The problem with Software Engineering is that we keep inventing the same [expletive] over and over again, along with many pat mistakes, which really means it in’t by traditional definition engineering. Even if you don’t use it you actually NEED to learn it ( and not just C/C++) in order to be a good developer no matter what language you are currently programming in. I prefer the notation where one states “string.toLowerCase()” in Javsacript versus “lc($string)” Perl. Here’s part of the response; I deleted the middle of the 2569 digits to save space: By all accounts, it’s a cool language and everybody has good things to say about it… except Twitter. Sometimes, even though it sounds ludicrous, I wish Microsoft would buy Delphi from EMBT and help it blossom. True as that may be, those communities only exist because of businesses extending the dismal life on what results in code semantics and practices strongly deviated from that of C. Trouble with that is, young developers typically learn C-derivative implementations. Examples of such languages are PL/1 and DIBOL. “They will purposefully write code that is so unreadable, compounded with the alien nature of their obscure language, that they are the only ones who might maintain a given application.”. Since we are trying to reduce the population explosion, the entire human race is dying? There are many things you can do writing drivers using WFC that are not available in the .Net Framework. Usually, a transcompiler is deployed that converts source code from a high-level programming language (such as C++ or Python) to another. “still missing usable OO and reflection features”. Arguments without base…. Because VB.NET is part of the .NET family, its like saying hmmm lets kill off .NET….. which would actually be a sound argument. Good Lord that would mean I think the software houses with the big projects choosing the languages and the programmers should be the deciders! COBOL is as irrelevant to software development today as VHS is to film distribution.There will never be more COBOL programmers than there are today; there will only be equal or less (generally less). There is no association between the name “Delphi” and C++. VB .NET surely can’t be that difficult 🙂. Many of the factory test applications I write use Labview. I dont see many (if any) postings for those with Scala knowledge. The GA144 processor chip with 144 cores, brings a whole new paradigm to programming. Object- Oriented language. That’s what we mean by “dead”. And it worked too. Who’s going to pay $1K-$2K for Delphi ($1K doesn’t even let you access a c/s database!) Can now develop for Win32, Win64, Mac, Android and IOS, If all your article is well based as the “Pascal code” (which lacks one “end;” and an “and.”) then … well …. Here’s a Visual Basic.NET program from Microsoft’s website: ‘ Allow easy reference to the System namespace classes. Java and C were already very close in April, but this month C surpasses Java again. All is invented. Our 200 person staff at Boeing all took a month of training on it (at the government’s expense, of course). While there are some great language migration products, the language and program written in it are so pervasive in large Fortune 500 companies that it’s unlikely to go away anytime soon. The author fails at nearly every line. When other people openly start calling your language dead is a really strong sign in and of itself. It is one of the best programming language to learn that has large number of open source libraries. Not sure what you are reading today or how you confused Delphi and our C++Builder – but I will be happy to bring you up to date on what we are doing with our development products. Throughout the 20th century, research in compiler theory led to the creation of high-level programming languages, which use a more accessible syntax to communicate instructions. don’t know what peice is, but apparently it has a strange uniform. And again… Delphi is not “sugar-coated assembler”. (I personally saw a Flash developer tell off a room of JavaScript developers for destroying his career.). I would settle for Google, Facebook or Oracle to do it. And until then they are too expensive to replace. Perhaps the title of this article should have been, “5 languages that won’t help your career much if you start learning them now…”. In this very moment, I’m working with Approximation Theory and Numerical Analysis with Multiprecision numbers and the language have proven to be perfect for the proposed purpose. 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